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response to response about those stats on tax flows from blue to red:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh110904.shtml

The gist:

Here is the source of those tax numbers. I have to say that, while I generally agree with you and am also a bit tired of the whining, your prejudices are showing here. Most of the "red states" (other than those in the Midwest) have extractive economies and many are in effect internal colonies. Their current poverty is historically constructed by these facts and the relative prosperity of the “blue states” has created and is dependent on their continued poverty (the existing economic development of the blue states in effect inhibits the red states from developing). The relationship here is essentially the same as the relations between the first world and the third world. There is a general correlation here between relative prosperity (even within red and blue states) and voting patterns. I think what the red states have in common is economic deprivation and a sense (justified) of a lack of control over their future. Unfortunately, they have wrongly identified "liberals" as the cause of their problems—in part because, as Thomas Franks points out, we have stopped talking about economic and class issues while still pushing for minority and gender enfranchisement.

You want another civil war? The South possesses 75 percent of the military bases in the USA. It holds 80 percent of the nuclear weapons along with the main source of producing fissile material. It also has the largest naval and air bases. Well over half of the present officer corps throughout the US armed forces are Southern. Bring it on you son-of-an-immigrant scumbag.

Son-of-an immigrant scumbag? If it weren't for sons and daughters of immigrants this country would be populated by...well, morons like you, you stupid fucking loser dickless asshole. Yeah, go ahead and threaten to nuke half the country. Why don't you just run headlong into a brick wall while you're at it? Yours is the most moronic, bigoted rant I've read in a long time. If you love war so much why don't you go to Iraq and throw yourself on a car bomb? You useless piece of shit. Those of us who love democracy and mourn its passing with this latest stolen election have no patience for you stupid mindless bigots. Got to hell. And while you're at it, try to avoid dragging the rest of us with you. Oh, too late. That already happened November 2nd.

We're not askin for another civil "WAR" you big dummy, we're just sayin, we're tired of your stupidity so "Get the fuck out".

i am a liberal who lives in the south and i want to kick this guys ass! fuck northern elitist pricks! i will take my rightwing southern brethern over your sorry ass any day of the week ya goddamn yankee mother fucker, you just bring it on pal!

Hi angry posters,

First of all, I would like to say "yay" for the fact that there is discussion going on. Second of all, can we please raise the bar just a bit?

The posting is a *joke.* It's funny. Half of my family is from the South and I still think it's funny. And my above posting is a critique of the origional posting.

However, it totally illuminates real problems with the political divide in the US, so do your postings. We really seem to be turning into two seperate countries. Or maybe that's just the media portrayal? What do you think? It seems important to remember that all states are actually purple and both red and blue people are everywhere.

But at the same time radical republicanism and religious fundamentalism are rampant in the south more so than the north. And this is a huge problem for everyone else in the entire world except for Ray (see above post) and his brethern.

You southies be careful, you keep up this type of talk and you're going to get leagues of leftist students tromping down there with Darwin and Economics textbooks in hand, knocking on doors and handing out free soup.

this may be a joke, but what if i made somthing like this that said fuck black people. some jokes aren't funny and althou the guy made some valid points, (i am a liberal redneck) i think this joke was cruel. people who are ignorant should be taught,not hated my fellow southerners need to know that the elite use things like gay marriege to distact them from the fact that they are being screwed over by the pro rich policys of this administration. in any case insulting my peers in such a cruel manner is wrong and hatefull. even ann coulter doesn't say fuck liberals. and she is pretty damn bad. thhis guy offends me worse than ann coulter! to to put it in common parlance, fuck all the goodamn yankees that think they are better then us. to you i say your no better than the KKK that hates blacks.

Don't Fuck The South [Nov 10, 2004]

I know I promised I wouldn't post again this week, but I've been receiving emails all day about this site, because people think I'll find it "funny." Well, it's not funny. The writer makes some valid points about how the South seems to get a disproportionate amount of federal pork. That, I'll give him. But as for the rest of his (or her) argument, I can say one word: Nonsense.

The South isn't the only region of the country that is over-pious about its churchgoing and aggressive in trumpeting its "values." You can find equal culprits all over the country. This isn't a regional conflict we're in, it's an intellectual one, and people live on both sides of the debate in every state. Northern stereotypes about the South are snobbish and annoying. Enough already!

I was born in Memphis, grew up in Phoenix, got married in Nashville, went on my honeymoon in North Carolina, and live in Austin. Many dear friends grew up in and still reside below the Mason-Dixon Line. The South is diverse. It's varied. And yes, it's ignorant in many ways. But I've never lived in a more segregated place than Chicago, the epitome of a great Northern city, and have never seen as much concentrated poverty and injustice in this country as when I lived in Philadelphia, the birthplace of our Constitution. So spare me the superiority rap.

The south gave us Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, Michael Jordan, Hank Williams, Tennessee Williams, fried chicken, Gone With The Wind, Truman Capote, pecan pie, barbecue, Mark Twain, and manned flight. The list goes on and on. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were both from Virginia, both founding fathers and both gun-toting slave owners. If you say 'fuck the South," you're saying fuck Nashville and Charlotte and Charleston, and Atlanta, and Austin, and New Orleans, and Athens, Georgia, the city that gave us the B52s and R.E.M. and...OK, well, fuck R.E.M. But that has nothing to do with the South.

I assume this person is a Democrat. The last three Democratic Presidents came from Texas, Georgia, and Arkansas, respectively. I say this to all of you who think it's funny and wise to say "fuck the South." If you fuck the South, you're fucking yourselves.

my previous poost comes from

http://www.nealpollack.com/cgi-bin/blog/do.cgi/200411110931/permalink

Hey this is a rather strange debate seeing that almost nobody has said anything of worth. I found the fuck the south website to be funny but only to a degree. The charges it makes are very valid and funny and debunk some stupid conservative myths but it should be titled fuck conservatism, not fuck the south. This is because it could have applied just as much in Kansas or Oklahoma as in Georgia. Also I don't like generalizations because there are plenty of good people from the south who aren't religious bigots or gun nuts just as there are idiots who live in the north.

OK, I totally agree that people who are ignorant need to be taught and not hated but FUCK man! You're acting like the entire Southern region of the US now comprises YET ANOTHER sensitive group that we all need to walk on eggshells around. I KNOW it's the conservatives and not every single person, DUH! (that was the common parlance of our times for yea). Someone would have to be *very* stupid to imagin the ENTIRE south was made of up other stuipd people and the entire North was rich intellectuals. And this blog is not for stupid people, OK? Well, it's not for very stuipd people at least.

Because when you're like "we can't say anything bad about anyone becuase it's going to hurt feelings and create stereotypes", I don't know, life just gets slightly more lame and boring.

If you want to write something funny and interesting about "fuck liberal dyslexic feminists" go right ahead and I'll post it and invite the world to comment on it.

I think the excessive amounts of insecure pride in the USA is on main reason why we're in so many messes these days. "Fuck me? Fuck YOU!" How imature...

oh really then is that a fact. this is just a joke so we should just get over out selves? what if i wrote a peice entitled fuck the niggers, would you find that funny? it's called not being bigots and when you say fuck the south, thats way different from fuck conservitves. secondly there is a difrence between being PC and being an asshole. caling blacks niggers, thats bad, calling jessie jackson an idiot, thats not. saying fuck the south, is bad, calliing us dickheads and assholes. thats bad. you don't have to walk on eggshells but politness is certainly a diferent matter.

Hi John, I just wanted to let you know that I'm considering deleting your last entry. Why? Because the sight of the "N word" makes me cringe and I don't even want it on my site.

I know I know, I just said that I think everyone needs to take it easy and not be so PC all the time, but that word just makes me super uncomfortable and it's my blog and that's really all the logic I can provide.

But I think your post is valid and if you feel letting me replace that word with "the N word" I can let it stand. What's the word John?

I'll legitimately reply to you post in my next post.

Ok, legitimate (or not, you be the judge) reply to John:

I completely agree: The guy who wrote the triade is an asshole. However, he is a funny asshole. He is also a funny asshole who raises some good points.

But your paralell of "the south" (almost half of the entire country) and "all black people" (a politicized group with a history of US oppression)is not, I feel, legitimate. It's not the same.

A better match would be a funny, well writen, and totally stereotypical rant against "New York." This rant woudl bring out very mean stereotypes about New Yorkers: they yell all the time, are completely xenophobic, have no idea there is a world outside of their own city, want to kick the ass of all other cities (incidently quite similar to many of the stereotypes of the South).

If the people of New York were somewhat responsible for something as globally horrible as the election of W, you would see these sorts of web pages abound. And if they were funny, I would post them, even though they were not polite and reinforced negative stereotypes. And I would think "ha ha, we suck, that guy's an asshole." But I wouldn't get angry.

Part of me feels that the reason this is such an issue is that the South is still cought up in the Civil War and thinks the North is elitist and thinks they're dumb. Or do you think that's a stereotype? It still seems alive and well given these postings. And from my perspecitve, the North has *no idea* that this battel is raging on. I just found out about it when half of my family became Southern. What do you think?

bigoty is bigoty. if you want to replace the word nigger with "n word" i don't care. to me i hate that word too, but it proves my point. i am a liberal. but most of my freinds who i love dearly are not. and we are ALL southern. this guy basically called my dad and my freind a dick head just because of our zip code. doesn't he realize that almost half the south voted kerry and almost half the north did not. hell in my own county it was like 5000, to 7000. secondly the west also went bush, why didn't go on about them. i will tell you why. i think folks are bigoted towards southerners. the south especally poor whites are sterotyped in hollywood as stupid toothless and what not. there is very real bogorty towards us. and franly i see no diference in that guys peice and the kkk stuff. yes the guy made a few valid points, but he did it in a very hateful and despicable way. if you remove my post you'll be a hypocrite but thats your choice. personaly i think that guy needs a good asss kicking.

i forgot to mention that the notion about the blacks being oppressed is true but they were not and are not the only ones. poor white people have it just as bad. for instance 1500 people die every year in kentuckey of black lung. you should study up on coal miners and what all they went through. and they're just one example they lived horrible existance and most still do. talk about blacks getting pulled over DOB (dribing while black) well poor whites get pulled over quite a bit as well. one of my freinds got a ticket for an open container of a NON alcholic beverage. how dumb wasd that. poor whites in the south during the civil war were practically slaves themselves. and the north was not fighting a holy war. read howard zinns book, A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present" you will learn that the devisions are really between the elite and the rest of us. you'll learn why racism started. you learn that things are not black and white but poor and riich. if poor blacks and poor whites united we'd be unstoppable, but don't expect the elite too let that happen. in any case hating a egion that is poor and suffers from poor education and lack of health care, running down people that are victims of a well organized propaganda machine. this is wrong. here ii am trying to connvince my southern brethrene that liberals care about the poor and then some liberal post thhis crap. he has undone all my hard work. we need to sopt hating and start uniting. stop hating and start reaching out to the uninformed.

oh yes and one mmore thing, why is nigger a bad word (and yes i know it is) but yet folks don't mind using other bigoted words like white trash, redneck, hick and hillbilly. these words are always used in a negitve way against the poor whites in rural areas. (are using them is similar to that of rappers using their word) now i remind you that poor white people have had it just as bad, and if you don't beleive me get out and resaerch this stuff and find out for yourself, so anyway personally i think all bigoted words shouldn't be used, but most only think that apply if the guy is black. now me, hate is hate and bogotry is bigotry, why all the double standarads, why is it okay to steriotype some groups and demean them but not others? i sur ehope you don't cenor my posts because they make very valid points, and after all you're not PC are you?

Saying that being a poor white or being sick is the equivalent to being a black slave is ridiculous. Taken from your country and family then being forced to work for someone under the horrible conditions that slaves lived under is not comparable to being poor or sick. Some one doesn't force you to be sick or poor, and then whip you and kill you when they're done with you. On another note, if you take a map of the states that were Confederate and then take a map of the republican southern states and lay them on top of one another guess what? They are the same states. I know that there are liberals in the south, but the posts here make it sound as if it's almost 50/50. If you want a true look at the real breakdown, look at a map that shows how each county voted. Almost no blue counties in the entire south, many states where ALL counties voted red. It's called the bible belt for a reason people. The majority of people are bible totin' red conservatives and a majority are bigots. I live in CA and have spoken to my minority group friends about going to the south, and yes quite a few had been to the south. The unanimous consensus: Don't go there unless you are white. Also on the topic of the n word. My wife who is hispanic (I am white) recently went to Tennessee. I asked her if it was really as racist as the stereotype claims, since it's the new millenium and I figured it to be an old stereotype. She told me two things and I believed them both because my wife is one of the most honest people I know. She said that she would not go to town by herself because she was hispanic and would be scared. The looks she got from the white folk when she went to town with the people she was staying with and our white looking children scared the hell out of her. Secondly, she said the n word was used frequently, and not just by the people she was aquainted with. She heard it a lot. One of the people she knew there was the town sheriff and he used it frequently until she objected. She said the black folk had there own part of town and the whites had theirs. Don't let people like the ones posting on this forum fool you into thinking racism is a small almost non-existing problem in the south. And now my final comment. The republican base: old white southeners. Bush gets most of his votes from senior citizens. That's his prime demographic. The average age is 65 for his base. Now think of the attitude of most southeners in the sixties toward blacks, jews, hispanics, homosexuals, integregation, etc. It was hell no! Does everyone think these people disappeared? No, they still live in the south and are now the south's senior citizens. If you were twenty five in 1965 then you are 64 today. These bigoted people are now the senior citizen republican base. Oh, and does anyone remember how pissed they were at the idea of removing the Confederate flag, symbol of their war to keep slavery alive?

concerning the original slaves you are right, but poor blacks today are no worse off then poor whites today. its a class issue not a race issue. as for your steriotyping southerners, that would be like me accusing the whole of LA as being vagans. and oh by the way where was rodney king beaten up?. CALI-FUCKING-FORNIA asshole! racism and xenophobia exist everywhere and in all groups. so don't you be talking shit when you don't have a goddamn clue what your saying. i live down south, sure they're bigots here, but i have also been around the country, and they're everywhere hoss! lets see, what happened in Ohio recently, wither the police, what about the new york race riots. yeah that's what i though, so shut up and get you're head out of your ass!

oh yes i forgot, where is the IRC (creationism group) located? california. where is where are there lots of skin heads, california. who has the worst air? california. where is segragation the worst right now? chicago. shall i go on. where were the last three democratic presidents from? the South, where is Martin Luther king from? the south. got me dipwad, ther southisn't perfect, but neither is anywhere else and you can't be judging people because of their zip codes. you will never ever get any where this way.

southern bigotry is centuries old check out the link below

http://freealabama.com/archive/samples1.htm

San Francisco constantly struggles with itself to solve the question of how many ***holes it's possible to fit into a square mile. How many cybersissies can you cram into a phone booth? How many Gaia-peddling belly-floppers? How many self-absorbed monkish Nerf balls of ideological irrelevance? How many dayglo lemon-meringue fashion tarantulas? How many gaunt, cellophane-wrapped nipple-tweakers? How many prune-twatted hipster debutantes?

It's a star-lit ballroom full of elitists masquerading as egalitarians. Of snobs pretending to be socialists. Of petty backstabbers who appoint themselves as, moral crusaders These creeps can't get along with the other 99% of the country -- s***, most of their time is spent quarreling among themselves -- yet they try to fist-**** you with Universal Brotherhood. Almost down to the very last shaved anus, San Franciscans are a xenophobic breed, If you don't speak, look, and act like a San Franciscan, their policy is one of Zero Tolerance. They're totalitarian in the sense that they insist on controlling the thoughts and lives of others through forceful statist intervention. In doing so, they align themselves with the establishment which they pretend to be overthrowing. They're a buncha urban supremacists. Unyielding. Humorless. Stuffed to the gills with an unwarranted sense of their own cultural/ moral superiority. I call them "Bay Aryans."

Surely I must be kidding, that I don't mean to compare such twinkle-toed West Coast coolness-mongerers to the TEETH-CHATTERINGLY SINISTER ATROCITIES of the Nazi pork-butchers. After all, Hitler killed six million Jewboys! That's enuff goldurned Heeb-a-ross to fill eight San Franciscos. You may be right, tootsie-pop, but are you aware that non-racist, peace-licking, universal-personhood-touting communist governments have slaughtered ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE this century? The commies beat Hitler 20- 1. Their unbounded love for "humanity" didn't seem to put a check on an even stronger love for controlling and killing human beings. So much for your murky notions of government-mandated humanism. Better a Nazi than a commie, I guess. And either one's better than a Bay Aryan. Being born in San Francisco is excusable, provided that you evacuate within 30 days of reaching adulthood. But moving TO the Bay Area is unforgivable under any circumstance. Based on an unfortunate long-term trend of Freak Relocation, the town has become a sort of Kurdish tent village of refugee wierdlings. A once-pretty city with flap-happy seagulls has degenerated into an island of white-breads-in-exile who've all fled from hometown persecution. San Francisco's foggy hills have become America's largest support group, a Jonestown for people who were socially traumatized in high school. Within city limits, I think, San Francisco's fine as a cultural sanctuary for oversocialized misfits. Its danger lies in an apparently insatiable drive to vengefully impose its values on everyone outside the fortress. I think it's good that you people should have your own ghetto. I just think we should build a fence around it. Among most humans, the need for social approval seems stronger than the need to know the truth. Rejected by the Uberclique, the Bay Ayrans form cliques of their own. Blind puppies in a cardboard box, they crawl over each other looking for 'scene' status. So weak as individuals, they truly believe that 'scene status' is a worthy goal. They howl about 'fighting facism' yet they exhibit a strong urge to feel a part of some 'community' which is the first flash of the facist impulse. You all need a crowd. You all need a movement. You need to be surrounded by the wool of a million other sheep before you start to feel warm. You all have social consciences because you're zeros as individuals. Your 'compassion' for others is ironically founded on your own self-hatred. You swim with 'the movement' because you're lost on your own. I don't care about your precious personal lifestyle choices. I really don't. And your entire dingbat philosophy, the whole tectonic plate on which San Francisco rests, is based on the false presumption that people such as me are upset with the manner in which you flap your genitals around. Egads.

It isn't what you do, it's the way you do it. Not the meat, but rather the motion. It's not what you're saying, it's your lousy voice. It isn't your private ****-slurping, it's your public megaphone-mouth. It ain't how you move beneath the sheets, it's the way you wave the picket signs around. The problem isn't your self-consciously "decadent" personal lifestyle, it's your warped social instincts. It has nothing to do with the widespread sidewalk display of ***-rimming ... or the women who look like Lou Costello ... or even the concept of white people who hate the concept of white people. In fact, those are some of the things I LIKE about SF. It's the attitude. The vantage point. Cloistered in a cultural Presidio, the Bay Aryans see fit to cast judgment about the millions of peasants who live out on the Plains. The Bay Aryans prove that they aren't truly compassionare by consistently showing a flagrant hatred for America's white rural limpenproletariat.

Though San Franciscans may mince through the streets in protest of hate speech, they sure as shootin' despise dem trailer trash. Although their hearts are opened like dilated (something to do with the lower alimentary canal) for poster kids halfway around the world, they disowned the homebound hillbillies a long time ago. I wonder what would happen if the hillbillies were to disown the Bay Aryans? Maybe if all the redneck farmers just decided to stop growing crops for a year. Perhaps if all the white-trash truckers agreed to halt delivery of all goods into this hostile enemy area. Maybe if all the EVIL WHITE MALE PIG COPS decided to ease up on Oakland and let black people really express how they feel about their brethren in Frisco and Berkely. That's all it would take. A puff of wind and they'd all fall down. It's a good thing the rest of your country sees your city as a harmless Fruitcake Palace. The rest of America is too busy trying to put food on the table than worrying about your neurotic socio-libidinal peccadilloes. The rest of America could get along fine without San Francisco. The reverse is hardly true. You should thank Goddess that there are a few Nazis in Idaho and a smattering of Klansmen in Kentucky, because what else would you talk about at the weekly gatherings of the collective? Never mind that you all live in a much more AFFLUENT place than Idahoans or Kentuckians do. Personal finances don't often factor into your idea of what constitutes oppression, do they? You claim to identify with the poor and downtrodden, yet you're miraculously able to pay some of the highest rents in America. How do you do it? Maybe if you took the silver spoon out of your mouth, I'd be able to understand what you were rumbling about empowerment.

Modem American Leftoidism, a Volk religion epitomized in places as the evil SF/Berkeley vortex, is almost exclusively the purview of upper-middle-class white kids who've never breathed a fleeting gasp of true oppression in their lives. This must be why the Bay Aryans don't seem nearly as concerned with America's widening class disparities as they are with its fashion mistakes and verbal boorishness.

Though the Bay Aryans fancy themselves as revolutionaries, they're actually little more than a left-wristed inversion of Miss Manners. An area that prides itself on the Free Speech Movement is now gung-ho in favor of legal restrictions on terminology which it doesn't deem proper or sensitive. The Bay area teems with tattletales and stool pigeons and hall monitors and snitches. Since they don't have any REAL problems in their lives, these mushy bananas worry about getting their feelings bruised.

Perhaps it hasn't occurred to you. but human history is not entirely summarized by the bold struggle for the "right" to poke your (you can guess what) through disco-bathroom glory holes. Not every act is political. Some are just silly and ugly and stinky.

Are you all high on crack? Does some municipal law require you to either have a glass pipe or a **** in your mouth at all times? Who else would seriously try to argue that rape has nothing to do with sex or that racism has nothing to do with economics? The holes in your logic have been stretched wider than your sphincters. Any honest overview of African, Asian, and Hispanic cultures would reveal more sexism, homophobia, and ethnic strife than you could shake a white **** at. Everyone is born corrupt. White males were simply better at it. You can show your sincere opposition to whitemale imperialism by giving your city back to the Injuns. Maybe we could help San Francisco realize its multicultural dreams by immediately shipping a million or so Third World indigents there. Let them take your jobs while you starve for awhile. We could forcibly relocate all the white-hipster undesirables out to Alcatraz, where they'd perform bloody gladitorial feats to the delight of Kenyan tourists on paddleboats.

I'm glad you've all gathered together in one place. Makes it easier to aim the missiles. Aren't you due for another natural disaster or something? Exactly what year are you scheduled to slide into the ocean? I want to take pictures. No offense, but I have a higher opinion of the runny, worm-filled dogs*** I scrape from my boot with a popsicle stick than I do of your fair city. You gave us OJ Simpson, but what have you done lately?

San Francisco, America's B-movie imitation of Paris. San Francisco, the city that ruined punk rock. San Francisco, the most intolerant place in the country. Second to Berkeley, of course. Berkeley's so bad, it's too painful to talk about. Tony Bennett left his heart. I took a dump. I'd tell you all to go to hell, but you already live there.

Oh my god, John! That was brilliant! "prune-twatted hipster debutantes" I love it. I'm sending it to my sister (from she lives in SF).

I'm also posting it. Is that cool? Do you have a blog you want me to link to so everyone knows you wrote it?

Besides I completely agree with a lot of what you've said. I agree with a lot of what everyone's said. I can't stand the modern leftist movement to the point that I now self identify as a radical because leftists piss me off so much. They like to sit and talk for hours and not *do* anything. Plus, totally, the whole elitism thing is alive and well.

In the end, this is one blog, we're not really going to solve anything here. But some good points were made by all and I hope others continue to post comments from every side of the issue.

cut and pasted from where I posted it on the main page....

However I don't think it's particularly original - found on google.....

http://www.totse.com/en/ego/literary_genius/bayarayn.html - attributed to a teleport.com page that doesn't exist any more

http://www.jimgoad.com/bayaryan.html - which attributes it to Filth magazine, published in San Francisco at the bottom

that last post of mine isn't my work, a freind gave it to me and it was on my computer. it was written by a man named jim goad. therefore you should use his name as the auther not mine, i don't need credit for somebody elses work. thanks for reading it though :) it does make the points that i intended. you should also pick up a copy of the redneck manifesto. it talks about how all our problems are a classs issue, the worker verse the rich elite. the elite used race and social difrences to devide us. i am telling you, when the good ol' boys and getto boys join hands, the rich won't know what hit them. step one is for folks to stop hating and start uniting. :) poor whites are victims of a crafty propaganda machine. to break though all the lies you must use love and tact, not hate and snobby elitism

this reply is to john.
first let start by saying that as a skinhead (no im not racist, i abhor it as much or more than most of you.) i recently moved from socal to new orleans (a former home, and the only city in the south i would have anything to do with.) and in response to the skinhead issue in cali, yes there are a lot of skins there but i know from personal experience that the majority of them are non-racist like myself. the issue of rodney king has more to do with the fact that all cops are bastards no matter where youre from.
in case youre wondering i am from the south as well, born and raised about 2/3 of my life there and i hate it. bigotry, undue pride, and arrogance are rampant, especially in states like texas (which i feel we should give back to mexico and make all who currently reside there mexican citizens out of spite.) so yes i say fuck the south.

steve for somebody that hates arrogance you sure sound that way yourself. most southerners are not arroagant, but we are a proud people, whats wrong with that. don't tell me yanks don't have pride, and don't get me started on LA.

now, john, on your views of the treatment of poor whites and blacks and peoples of all "minorities" i can only agree 100%. those views we certainly do share. evidence of that can be found in the south during the times of slavery when white plantation owners, in order to keep the black slaves and poor whites form forming alliances against a common enemy, would feed the poor whites with the propoganda that because they were white and so were these white slave owning rich bastards, then had to be the same and therefore equal, thus exhaulting themselves above the black slaves. when in reality they (poor whites and black slaves) were all in the same floundering boat.
before you reply, i also do keep in mind, that the same form of racism and slavery was just as prevelant in the north and in fact the emancipation proclamation only pertained to the slaves in the south and not the slaves in the north, so it all comes, once again as you have stated, to a class issue. but i still say fuck the south

you are right on the money dude. finally sombody gets it :)

i have to say fuck the north though inrespnse to your fuck the south, but other than that you are right. but when pooor yanks and poor rebels, poor whites and poor blacks unite instead of fucking each other, the rich won't know what hit them, untill then they are quite happy to see ahouse devided which can not stand

Ah, hello people? We have forgotten entirely to fuck middle america...better get on that...

fuck middle america :)

to the northerners on their views of the south...
you all just need some good old family lovin'
and need to start recognizing that your little life and opinions mean absolutly nothing...get over yourselves and spread love baby (plus, flipping out about issues like these tend to cause roids)--the small amount of idiots (i hope to think) that actually do say things like "fuck the south" are the reason why the rest of the world hates the united states...just get over urselves...you arent the most important thing on the planet.

hey were do the western states fit into all of this?. Are they neutral?,lol.

FUCK THE NORTH!!!!

A lot of motherfuckers have been saying a lot of vulgar shit about those of us who live below the Mason-Dixon. People from the Northeast have been saying that they resent us because they spend too many of their precious tax dollars “helping” us, and that we have ungratefully thrown this back into their lily-white faces by electing Bush. I think some of that polluted snow has managed to seep into their thick skulls.

First of all, not all of us voted for Bush. I voted for Kerry. All my friends voted for Kerry. Every member of my immediate family voted for Kerry. We didn’t vote for him because we liked his arrogant, lifeless, and staid Puritan ways. To the contrary, we voted for him because we have always hated Republicans, which is something that cannot be said for y’all. Yankee politics always seem confusing and petty to me, so I am hoping that a few of y’all can answer a couple of questions I have.

My first question is, if y’all hate the goddamn Republicans so much, then why the fuck did you people create the damn party in the first place? It ain’t our fault that you bourgeois assholes felt like big business needed its own party. Secondly, if you motherfuckers up there hate industrial capitalism so fuckin much, then why did you come down here and force it on us? I’d like to see some answers to that, because my ancestors supported Jeff Davis.

As far as letting the South go, go right ahead. You spoiled motherfuckers have taken this election harder than the Union army took their ass whoopin at Bull Run. We wanted to leave this industrial, money-grubbing, capital-hoardin Republican nation in the first place. You wanna bitch about your tax dollars goin to waste? Don’t send em. We never asked you to. You people are the ones who have this idea that we are all destitute and miserable down here. Of course, I guess y’all would see it that way since y’all have done all you can to make it that way. Go right ahead. Let us go, or even join Canada if you want, because y’all will be the ones payin your dues. You might pay a disproportionate amount of federal taxes, but we shed a disproportionate amount of blood in your goddamn foreign wars. Since y’all won’t mind us relieving the nation of our armed sons and daughters, I am assuming you won’t mind us relieving you of all the damn food we grow to feed your sickly asses.

I’ve also heard a lot of motherfuckers sayin that this country was founded at Plymouth by a bunch of bland, stupid, fanatical Puritans. Well, I disagree. As I recall, we were well on our way, smokin tobacco and reading verses of Homer while you cocksuckers were burning witches.

Of course, I could just be an illiterate, backwards Southern redneck with no education. I would answer to that, but I have to get back to writing that essay on Faulkner that’s due tomorrow.

On a final note, I have noticed some of y’all have some strange opinions on the meaning of the Confederate Battle Flag, or the Saint Andrew’s Cross, as I like to call it. I’ll help y’all out by giving you the most prevalent meaning it enjoys down here. It means kiss my ass.

The thing that kills me about the page this whole discussion started about is that most of the shit this guy rants is WRONG. It's just simply not true. Whether poor whites have it just as bad as poor blacks or not, or what have you, the bile this punk is spewing is made up. The thing that gets most of the southerners who see it heated up is that we are seeing it as a continuation of the negative stereotypes that have been laid on us since the end of the Civil War. Shit like the Dukes of Hazard makes me cringe. I've lived in the south my entire life, and I have never known anyone named Cooter, or Daisy-Mae. I have met a Billy Bob, but he was from Chicago. Incest isn't any more prevalent here than it is anywhere else. I've been all over the world, and People aren't any stupider here than they are anywhere else, and in real life, they aren't any more bigoted here than they are anywhere else either.

This is an old discussion but jesus horse fuckin christ. I am from tennesse and i guess if you were standin on the north pole i would be from the south but if you were standin at the south pole i guess i would be from the north so who gives a fuck except the dick suckin piece of shit from a crack whores ass who authored www.fuckthesouth.com only that guy would care, what a fuckin loser and anybody who defends that fuck is a fuck your own mother kinda person anyway. I dont care what the fuck you jerk off at the mouth about you could go to fuckin mars and find some dude with that redneck accent they are everywhere .........everywhere. I dont go to church and i dont drive a truck and i dont support the fuckin nra and i dont support you and i dont really care about you people reading this either but i resist the people around me here cause i dont like their views and beliefs about some nothing called jesus. Every fuckin day i deal with that shit but now i have some fuck writing shit about the place i live aint that a bitch. The rednecks here push their bullshit on everybody around them and the fuckin other wanna b's do the same you know who the fuck you are. but now there is some assholes on the net writin pages of insults to my people. my friends who just happen to live in the south what the fuck single people out dont generalize a population. Who else generalizes groups of people hmmmmmmmm rednecks cops thugs jocks jews nazis churchies goths uhhhhhhhhhh is it a coincidence that all the people who fall into horse shit like this www.fuckthesouth.com or churches or gangs are all insecure people who cant deal with life on their own so they have to create tension so they can separate from a group of people so they can get protection by others ....... i spit at you worthless you are and all that follow you. Your insults about the place i live are nothing your nothing and if you was to show up here in my domain kid you might actually have something to cry about. waaaaaaaaaa fuck the south waaaaaa fuck the south waaaaaaaaa But like i said i live here i dont partake in the redneck games im part of what you might call an unofficial revolution in the state of mind of a southern population. So suck on that for a little while then bitch about it on the net.

before anybody loses their heads about the jews and nazi shit with the redneck and all that if your a seperatist then fuck you. Their are jews who seperate fuckin worthless christians do it notice i said worthless christians if your are a piece of shit christian you might not be aware of it. LOVE THE MAN NOT THE DEVICE THAT WAS USED TO KILL HIM DUMBASS!!! A FUCKIN CROSS IF THAT DOESNT SCREAM SOMTHING ABOUT THE RELIGION NOTHING WILL EXCEPT IF HEAVEN IS SO GREAT AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM FOR ANYONE THEN WHAT WAS LUCIFERS PROBLEM AND DONT GIVE ME AN EXCUSE ITS GOD HE DONT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH SHIT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS MAKE LUCIFER DISAPPEAR!

If supporting gay marriage is a sin.......
Then so be it.

I hate Fucking rednecks... I hope they all burn in HELL

you know-nothings really piss me off, who cares if some douche says "fuck the south". you are all acting like 3rd graders. i dont see why someone would take the rants of some ananymous dick so perrsonally. if the south's stero-types dont exisist for all of the south then why do u care?

oh, and, FUCK THE SOUTH!

and why would anybody vote for GW? if everyone says well i didnt vote for him, and i hate him, how did he win?

listen to CKY

my last rants for now:

know whats a pile of bullshit? that pledge of alligance, total bullshit. u get kids to repeat it time and time again in a vein and frankly pathetic attempt to inspire patriotism when really all you are doing is assciating the flag, sybolic of the entire country (although no child sees this) with monotomous waste of time. infact thats all it is. does anyone honestly beleive that a child REALLY pledges alligance? most kids dont even know how to say it correctly. i quote a child i heard a while back "and to the nation richard stands" they don't even know what the fuck they are saying, so i guess my rants come to this: either teach kids what it REALLY means to pladge alligance or drop the bullshit because it, as it is right now, is a mockery of america, a travesty, and should be corrected immediately

southerners should just get a job, make some money for once, stop bitching about the yankees and get over it .... if they spent 1/2 as much time working and not bitching they would be much better off.

the south is almost a 3erd world country.... and they are some of the fatest people too

Georgia has had over two million people mostly from the north and midwest move here in the past twenty years. Has this made Georgia more liberal?
No because the Atlanta suburbs(which are home to these transplants vote about 70% GOP)We have our first Republican in the govenors office since reconstruction. It's obvious that northern immigrants helped put him and the Georgia congressional seats firmly in the GOP's pocket for the most part. Yes, there are plenty of gun-toting, religious fundamentilist, bigoted people in our state, but I have traveled rural areas of the Northeast and those areas were far from cosmopolitian. On the issue of race yes the south has plenty to be ashamed of, but many of you fucking northeast liberal elitist snobs don't relize that Jim Crow laws originated in the north and NY,Detroit,Boston,Philly have had racially motivated mobs intimidate minorities on several occasions in the past hundred years. In Chicago in the 1960's a large mob of whites in the suburbs(numbering in the hundreds)yelled slurs and insults at the first black family who attempted to move in to their tolerant, open-minded Blue state neighborhood. Rural areas are generally more narrow minded than metro areas this is true everywhere in America. The rural areas outside of the south are overwhelming homgenous(white), whereas the rural south is ethnically diverse. Most small southern towns high schools that serve Black and white students almost in equal numbers. I contend that the only area in the country where black and white students attend the same schools together on a large scale is in the rural south. The only areas I saw minorities in the north were in ethnic neighborhoods in the inner cities. Yes there a lack of perfect racial harmony in most of the south, but try this on less than one percent violent crimes in Georgia involve both blacks on whites or vice-versa. No one is being lynched or intimidated.(except very very isolated cases)It's easy for people in homogenous pointy head blue blood liberal neighborhood to talk about the south being bigoted. I just wonder how well white people in a small upstate NY town would do if they woke one day and half their town was minority. The term white flight was coined in North for the post WW II white migration from the increasingly minority center cities of Philly, NY, Chicago and especially Detroit. I am a Democrat with liberal leanings! I would like to see alot change in the south, but I think that Blue state progressives have unfairly targeted the south while most of their children attend schools and live in neighborhoods that are overwhelmingly white.

I live in New York and yes we are elitist snobs. First of all I'm a mixed race trust fund brat who lives in Yonkers since thats where all my family lives. Second, I agree with the guy who said his latino wife was scared to go to the south. I'd never set foot in that dump. We have good right to be elitist snobs. Our cultural and social beliefs are just much more sensible than southerners are. We don't hate on people who look different here. All southerners do though. As for racist people in the north. Yea, there are racist people in the north. But I've found that close to 90 percent of them were born in the south and just migrated up here for some reason. We call them posers.The other 10 or 11 percent have southern origins in their family whether it be an uncle,aunt, mom,dad, etc. So my point? Fuck the south indeed.

" I live in New York and yes we are elitist snobs. First of all I'm a mixed race trust fund brat who lives in Yonkers since thats where all my family lives. Second, I agree with the guy who said his latino wife was scared to go to the south. I'd never set foot in that dump. We have good right to be elitist snobs. Our cultural and social beliefs are just much more sensible than southerners are. We don't hate on people who look different here. All southerners do though. As for racist people in the north. Yea, there are racist people in the north. But I've found that close to 90 percent of them were born in the south and just migrated up here for some reason. We call them posers.The other 10 or 11 percent have southern origins in their family whether it be an uncle,aunt, mom,dad, etc. So my point? Fuck the south indeed. "

Not true. I've been through the north.. they are much more racist than the south. Being that the north has always been more segregated then the south. The southern folks of all colors grew up together(class is what seperates in the south) and are use to being around one another. You get up around New York and other parts you have sections of cities that are segregated from other races and it's been that way. In the mean time southern blacks and whites were neighbors watching each others kids, tending to their neighbors when sick. My grandmother breast fed her black neighbors baby when she was sick. Have that happenin in the north? I doubt it. They'd have to travel to even get to the other color's neighborhood.

I have lived in the south my whole life and I completely think it is a complete piece of shit place to be. Not only are the people here arrogant but they are also stupid. In other words.. fuck the south.

I am from Michigan, and in Detroit, one of the most racially divided cities in the country, most of the people who moved up to Detroit are originally from the South. That's a fact... that could answer some problems about the race thing as well as the violent thing. Violent crimes in the south are way worse than in northern urbanized areas as a whole. And the main reason that those areas have violence is because southerners have immigrated up here.

The bottom line here? (and this isn't pointed at the tax issue)

Most of the people involved in this thread have no real basis for anything being said. You can run off at the mouth about what you think you know, or what was told to you by a "reliable source", but that by no means qualifies you to make statements of how things are in reality.

I'm not gonna get into the North/South issue, because those that it would be targeted at would only toss any valid points aside and continue into their aggressive ignorance.

If you really want to persist with this, however, maybe you should look at who's being more conversationally violent. Oh, but you're the civilized ones, right?

Ahhhh...I don't think blacks are lynched and pulled by the neck until their heads pop off by "rich elitist northern snobs".

I am shocked that all of you fill this page with so much bullshit. All you pretty-boy, rich-ass, northerners bad mouth the southern states with so much bullshit nonsense, its sickening.I've lived in the south for all my life and have been instilled with all its "redneck" values. you pricks have no clue what its like, most southern people are kind, friendly, and warm. Right now I'm in Pennsylvania visiting my friends and I've experienced how some of the northerners are, They are rude, selfish, stuckup, we're better than you assholes. I've been brought up to do such things as say yes ma'm and yes sir and treat people with respect no matter how they are. Thats why it enrages me to see fucked-up dickwads like the creator of "fuckthesouth" write this bullshit.
I also wanted to congratulate "jim" on his comment that the south is almost a third world country. Get a fucking clue man. Just because we don't have huge office complexes and fruity-store filled downtown areas, doesn't mean we're less civilized than you. A lot of our areas are rural because of farming, which I assume you think is a mindless, good ol' boy job. well its not, you complain about the south while eating food from a southern farm. dickheads. get a fucking clue, you guys think you are so much better than us, when all you are is an egotistical group of depraved people. If you don't like the flag that some of our people wave, which is the battle flag of Tennessee by the way, and you can't accept our traditions and our way of life, then you can fuck off and move to another country.

It's Not Fuck the South, It's fuck these Idiots who belive this shit.

I live in southern Kentucky right now and have lived in various places in Kentucky my entire life. I'm not going to defend the place where I live. In fact, I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret about the south that I have slowly learned over the years. That secret is that all of the stereotypes about the south.... are true. No, not everyone here is a redneck, barefoot, inbred, homophobic, racist moron, but I'd say about 70-80% of us are. Let's face it, the south is a big pile of shit. Living here makes me wonder why Lincoln was so concerned about preserving the Union.
The south is full of anti-intellectual gun-toting republicans. In the county where I live, 85% of voters voted for a ban on gay marriage. Those people can go fuck themselves. I don't care if some of them also voted for Kerry either. If you drive into my town (Bowling Green, which is a college town and one of the larger cities in KY) you had better remove any liberal bumper stickers from your car. Those cars tend to get vandalized here. Are you a guy with long hair or look different in any way at all? Don't be suprised went you hear "FAG!" yelled at you from a passing beat-up pickup truck. And this is the "liberal" college town in southern KY. I love the "Fuck the South" article. Now is not the time to be polite to the South. Now is not the time to avoid stereotypes and walk on egg shells. Our country is rotting from the core and the Bible belt is tightening its hold on America. I've seen it written that Southerners are frustrated by the lack of control they have over the country. Have you looked around lately? Everything is under the control of conservative southerners now. They don't care if they are voting against their interests and for the rich man as long as them gays can't get married.
Maybe "Fuck the Baptists" would have been a better title to the article. Am I, a liberal, attacking a specific religious group? Yes, yes I am. Come to the south and you will notice that everyone here who is undesirable goes to one of the Baptist churches that are on each street corner every Sunday. Well, one of those or a Church of Christ. Fuck those guys too.
Luckily I will be able to escape Kentucky soon and go to an overly liberal town of my choosing. Mmmmmm.... yummy liberal towns.
Well, we draw near to the end of my rank. Before someone points out that the north also has racist, homophobic morons I would like to point out that this is not an all or none issue. What we are dealing with are percentages. You can't point to the 10% conservative portion in town A and say they make that town just as bad as the 90% majority of conservatives in another town B. Those in town A are much better off and if a conservative asshole in that town decides to do something stupid, they are generally rebuked by the majority of the population, whereas in town B an angry mob of support will gather around the conservative asshole.
Fuck the South, fuck the south, fuck the south right in its gaping inbred asshole. And yes, there is a lot of inbreeding here, fucking come here and take a look at the people!

Just about any major city in the blue states is full of pasty white liberals who are as cold as ice. Most liberals are very negative, and they see the hole instead of the doughnut. Most liberals I have met put up big walls around their hearts. They are quick to criticize and last to consider how wrong they are on so many issues. They know nothing of what a true family is all about. Sure there are some liberals that do, but they are the exception not the rule.

90 percent of the liberals I have met spew much more prejudice and generalizations about other classes of people (southerners, whites, women, etc.), much more so than midwesterners or southerners do.

It's not uncommon for liberal big city elitists who live their lives sipping wine and putting on airs to regularly call their midwestern and southern relatives and friends for real, serious counseling on everything from jobs, marriage, and child rearing. It's because they have their heads so far up each other's asses with liberal group think that their morality has eroded. It's happened to Europe in many parts, and the liberals here are making it happen to America.

It's a real sad, sad, shameful time when blue staters vomit up the mentality that they do. The true American way of thinking lies in the hearts of the midwesterners and the southerners these days. Most people who carry this traditional, family oriented way of thinking with them, originally are from these areas.

So fuck New York, fuck Boston, fuck LA, and fuck all the elistist pricks who think they have everything figured out when it comes to the red state blue state discussion.

The south today is nothing like it was back during civil war days. The north was populated by REPUBLICANS back then, who prosecuted the south, which primarily exemplified the DEMOCRAT, aka DIXIECRAT mentality. Now all the traditionalist Republicans have migrated and mainly live in the midwest and south.

And shut your pie hole with this backward mentality thing of the south. Yes, there are plenty of less educated people in the south but they don't speak for the clear 90 plus percent majority in the south and midwest who are good, smart, hard working, brave, traditional values people. The big city blue staters think they are good people, but that's because they have faked themselves out into believing they are. But they do not possess the same family oriented values, by and large, as people from other regions.

It will be a very shameful time in this country if the blue staters take over congress, the presidency, the courts, and the political will of AMerica. They are NOT, in any way shape or form, anything resembling what America was founded on.

As soon as they wake up and admit it, maybe this country can heal itself. Until then, FUCK EM, for they know not what they do.

What I've noticed is northern liberal big city elitists are more concerned with looking cool, making a joke, and being complete sarcastic assholes, than they are about being a genuine, decent person. They are so concerned with maintaining a facade in public and hiding their true capacity for being HUMAN. Heaven forbid any urbanite would see the positive side of life instead of their morbid existence walking around cold, cruel city streets.

Today's liberals have really taken the heart and soul of America, and our freedoms and priveleges, for granted. They're always last in line to take action to save this country, until it happens to them personally or in their own little microcosm of existence. Again, heaven forbid any liberal would have a larger view of the world out there, and realize how stupid their activism is on many subjects. If it was possible to have the heart in the right place but the brains, words, and actions completely in the wrong place, that would describe today's liberals.

What a bunch of selfish, uncaring, cold, sarcastic, bad samaritans.

SOUTHERNERS ARE D-BAGS WHO SHOULD DIE

Hey Elite Southerner d-bag......Conservatives are the exact some way. Have you ever watched any interview with the president? lol

Hi angry posters,

I do really find it fascinating that my blog has turned into such a hot bed of predjuiced hate mongering. I love reading it. But seriously, let's all put just a little bit more effort into our blog comments and, if you're going to express your totally fucked up views on the North or the South, please at least make them intelligent adn provide some sort of evidence. Tell us who you are. What your experiences are. Why you feel how you do. That stuff is fascinating.

Best,
~ rebecca

Fuck Da USA ....ima Canada for life G

I just found about this fuckthesouth website a few days ago and i must say it's pretty interesting!

As an European I have been raised with a kind of anti-American mentality, but a meeting with an American friend a while ago made me look at the USA in a different way.

See, when we think of America in a bad way, we think of things like rednecks, slavery, the US as world-police, and Bush. And a lot of other things.

When we think of America in a good way, we think of.. Well, the only thing that spring to my mind is the fact that your troops stopped the Nazi's in WW2. (But then again if we think about it, we also realise the only reason the US entered Europe was to try and prevent the Sovjets from ruling Europe.)

Anyways, it is funny to see that most our bad images spring from the south or the " Red States", if I was to believe the website fuckthesouth.com.

I dunno what is true and I will never know for sure unless I'm gonna move to the US and live in every state for a while, but this whole thing has raised an interest in the matter, and I am curious about one thing:

Why did Abe Lincoln try so damn hard to preserve the south? What were his motives?

At the end he did "win" but I kinda noticed there is still a big gap between northeners and southeners.. Sure, slavery is no more and I'm happy about that, but was that the only reason? And if I understand it correctly, the land isn't really a union now is it?

I havn't read all the entries in this forum yet, but I must say many of 'em are down-right.. er.. Not-so-smart. A lotta fuck-this and damn-that doesn't add up to core of the message now does it?

Ah well, feel free to enlighten me about your wonderful yet divided country!

I am from Canada and I read the website fuckthesouth.com and laughed my ass off, some interesting points were raised which contradict many of the arguments put forth by (mainly) southerners.

About the democratic presidents from the South....we have a similar problem here in Canada in that our Prime Ministers tend to have a better chance of being elected if they come from Quebec. I put it to you this way....the democrats nominate presidential candidates from the South so that they have a better chance of getting elected. This fact alone would indicate that the South would appear to be more secular than the North (with Northern voters voting for Southern presidential candidates more readily than Southern voters voting for Northern candidates).

I can't believe that you guys elected a guy whos "Daddy" was president. That is the kind of thing that happens in third world dictatorships....you can't tell me that out of ALL the people who could be president, it just so happens that the guys who's daddy was president got elected. And then go figure, he starts a "war" with the exact same guy that his daddy had a "war" with.....duh.

I want you guys down there to do well for yourselves, because like it or not, Canada is along for the ride. I just hope you guys can stop your bickering amongst each other long enough to straighten things out.

Oh yeah....three points I wanted to make;
1. I agree that it is now poor vs. rich
2. slavery still exists, they just pay the slaves now
3. being poor is not generally by choice, but force upon large groups of people by repressive economic policies

Fuck Red America. Fuck it right in the ear.

Fuck u all yankees and rednecks and americans in general
you are all the same shit
but fear not
ia have a solution for you
leave the planet¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

Hey, I'm from the south, and I hate Bush too! I worked my @ss off to get him out of office last November with the Kerry campaign. I understand why you say that you hate the south, but please remember - some of us down here aren't backwards retarded rednecks. Some of us, believe it or not, do indeed have common sense. I come from a long line of southern democrats, and well... they raised me to be educated, informed, and civically engaged. I wish that didn't make people like me the minority around here, but it does. Anyway, just remember that there are a handful of smart, educated liberals down here, and we have to struggle everyday living in these heavily red states. I, for example, live in Tennessee, which is about 80% republican, I don't care what the polls say. I have actually been spit at for declaring the truth about George Bush. I've been told that I was going to hell, that I am a mistake, that I will burn forever - all because I stand for the truth. So please, please, give us our props! It's hard being blue in a red state! :)

Ok... this is absolutely retarded, this entire post.

Nort and South are still part of the same country...THE UNITED FUCKING STATES OF AMERICA.

Blaming today's south for slavery is stupid... because EVERY slave owner that once owned slaves... has been dead for at least 100 years... so... ... ?

Bush drops bombs that cost millions of dollars every day... on innocent people... and you're gonna bitch about helping your fellow americans?
If you're so money conscious, then why don't you help stop the war in iraq.

This whole thread is absolute bs, I can't believe you people are gonna sit here and argue over something so stupid...

The author of fuckthesouth.com's pages... is a moron... if you have a problem with the way the politicians handle matters in this country, call your congressman... and bitch, at least something might get done that way. Can you honestly say that all of this mindless bickering has done one thing to fix any of these problems? NO.

You know what else is funny? By blaming your fellow Americans, you're just taking emphasis off of the elite, who are really behind EVERY problem we have in this country. Racism, sexism, religous intolerance... it's all part of the same plan to keep us busy bitching at eachother, instead of the elite.

PS - I live in one of the most REDNECK infested towns in America, no doubt about that.. but you know what? Racism is hardly an issue where I live... you know why? there isn't nearly as much racism in the real world as the media would have you intellectual northerners think...

*frustrated facial expression*

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i am a liberal who lives in the south and i want to kick this guys ass! fuck northern elitist pricks! i will take my rightwing southern brethern over your sorry ass any day of the week ya goddamn yankee mother fucker, you just bring it on pal!

damn right brotha! i'll sure as hell take my leftwing southern brethren over the sorry ass son of a bitch who made that site. just as he said, fuckin elitists, talkin about us having a holier than thou philosophy and then making a site called fuckthesouth.com, filled up with reasons northerners are better people than southerners. damn hypocrites. long live dixie! as long as i live i'll fly the southern flag, no matter what damn northern elitist government says i cant.

I just want to say FUCK U ALL gringos

Fuck the south?

Fuck America! We (yes I live here unfortunately) are one of a few nations in the world to support the execution of minors and the mentally disabled. Do you have any idea who else does that? Saudi Arabia, China, Afghanistan (oh its much better now there's anarchy instead of theocracy, yeah sure), regions of Africa, and that's about it. Not all the nations of Russia, France, England, Japan, Spain or India. Name one other First World nation that isn't so morbid as to support such heinous policies. The whole culture of life thing, yeah that's utter BULLSHIT. And while many of those "civilized" nations like Britain and Spain might have a bunch of colonial skeletons in their closets (but no gays since several support gay marriage) so do we! How the fuck do you think the US ended up with Saipan, Hawaii, Fiji, the Phillipines, and the western half of the continental US? No, we didn't just win it in some sort of global lottery; we invaded Mexico. We conquered Cuba. We disposed of Queen Liliuokalani and then annexed Hawaii. While Europe might have ditched the habit of Imperialism sometime in the late 1970s, we just got more and more into the thrill of it all. Remember the Shah? Oh of course not then you couldn't wave your flag and worship/hate big brother- I mean George Bush. Well how about Pinochet? No? Well, how about all those banana republics? No, not the store. The real issue here is that the Rich have made a "civil war" break out between the Middle and Lower classes. In the true spirit of America and the military, they have used this distraction to solidify an empire, and that empire is everywhere. It's in your food (GMO's, pesticides, fertilizers, etc.), on your clothes (slavery for American textile corporations in Saipan and China), on your TV (Viacom, owner of MTV, Comedy Central, Nick, and many other channels donated vast amounts of money to the Bush campaign), inside your house (construction companies are some of the most devout funders of the GOP), and in your head. Don't shreak about hating the South. It's what the system wants you to do.

fuck hilbillies, my site says it all.

www.freewebs.com/thesouthsucks